A reader, ronnie posted this comment yesterday: "Did u called to buy citi @ USD48 & MEGB @ 2.12 ? I got this from >http://samgang.blogspot.com/2011/06/v-didnt-i-told-u-not-2-touch-call.html". I like to take the opportunity to address this comment to all my readers.
The first thing you should know is where Sam is coming from? His main objective is to run me out of town because I am putting up my investment thoughts & recommendations for free which could be a threat to his subscription-based website or weblog. Then again, there are so many free websites or weblogs out there and I wonder why he is so persistent in attacking me or Nexttrade. I do not know the answer to that question. Sometime it is hard to fathom the action & thinking of some people. It only shows that there are all kinds of people in this world & we just have to learn to live with them.
To the question of whether I call a buy on Citigroup, the answer is YES (here). It was one of those calls that didn't pan out. Then again, I also called a buy on Esso, Exxon & Genting SP (here, here & here) which panned out very well. Alas, Sam did not mention those. Not every call works out the way we want it to. While some analysts or bloggers may trumpet their many wonderful BUY calls which work out while remaining silent on those that bombed, I choose to do neither. If you have been in the investment business long enough, you would know that we can't get it right all the time. You only hope to get it right more often than getting it wrong. You have to be humble to accept that you were wrong-footed from time to time, just as you should accept success calmly. Should I do victory laps because my recent calls- BLDPLNT & Delloyd- are zooming up. NO. Everyday is a new day.
Sam likes to pigeon-holed me or Nexttrade as a weblog that only makes calls based on technical analysis. My readers would know that's not the truth. As an accountant by training & a remisier for far too long, I like to bring a holistic approach to investment. Sam talks a lot about fundamental analysis. I have no quarrel with anyone using fundamental analysis. Some of the best investment calls are based on fundamental analysis, such as George Soros’s bet against the British Pound in 1987 or John Paulson’s bet against the sub-prime mortgages in 2008.
Not every call based on fundamental analysis works out fantastically. Why? Because at the other end of the trade is someone who has also done his fundamental analysis and came out with the opposite conclusion. You would have a 50:50 chance of a positive outcome for every call you’ve made. Of course, one always believes that his fundamental analysis can never go wrong but the truth is the market always catches up with us and prices reflect the odd. You would encounter a stalemate. What is a stalemate? Have you ever hold a cheap stock which never moves? Until one fine day, it shoots up & we quickly sell it off only to see it soars through the roof. Why? The simple answer is that there is a change in the market perception where the underlying reason is something fundamental which the market does not know yet. This change in the market perception is captured in the price chart.
What is a price chart? It is a recording of all price data, overlaid with various indicators to give us an insight into the psychology of the market players. A price chart is the basic tool of a technical analyst or technician. The basic premise of technical analysis is human behavior remains unchanged throughout history. We may say those who do not learn from history will bound to repeat it. And, it seems that we always never learn from history because we are creatures governed by two powerful emotions- greed & fear. This behavior that we have seen in the past, we would see again in the future. This applies not only to the stock market. It applies to every market where there are sufficient buyers & sellers. Have you heard people questioning how a terrace house in Desa Park City on the outskirt of Kuala Lumpur can shoot up to RM2 million each when only 2 years back it was selling for RM600k. Were you brave enough to buy when it shot above RM700-800k? That’s the basis for the technical rule that you should buy when a stock breaks new high. Apply it intelligently, while taking precaution (or protective stops), it could be a rewarding trading strategy.
There are many principles & rules which make up technical analysis and many of them are intertwined with trading rules & money management rules. Some condemn technical analysis because it always deals with probability, instead of certainty. How certain are you that fundamental analysis is more reliable than technical analysis? I would not accept any criticism of technical analysis from Sam or anyone who knows nothing about technical analysis. Technical analysis- a skill that is so integral to investment & trading- is something that we all should master. Strangely, Sam chooses not only, not to master this skill but instead to wear his ignorance as a badge of honor.
Finally, my position on the MEGB is oversimplified by Sam. This is one of Sam’s many traits which I find irritating & unprofessional. The others traits are his quarrelsome nature, his rude remarks & persistent name-calling. On MEGB, you would get a better picture of the development of my position on MEGB by going here. The sequence of posts is as follows:
- I questioned MEGB’s exceptional high profit margin prior to its listing in May 2010;
- I posted my call to avoid the stocks of educational group (especially MEGB) on September 2010;
- I highlighted the possible support for MEGB as it trended lower in October 2010;
- I posted a possible trading BUY on MEGB in January 2011;
- I posted another possible trading BUY on MEGB in April 2011.
Let me conclude by saying that the internet is a wonderful thing. It opened up a whole new avenue for people to learn new things or to express themselves. I hope that people would use it carefully and for good purposes. I wish Sam all the best in his work and I hope that one day Sam & I can meet up & have a polite discussion about the pros & cons of technical analysis. Until then, I hope to see an improvement in our discourse on this subject. Let's agree to disagree, if need be.
32 comments:
+1 Alex
Learn as many startegy (fundamental or technical)as posible.. and make our own decision to buy, sell or hold. Don't blame other if it is wrong.
I like your analysis.. clear & profesional.
Sam... let he be in his own world. Condemn other to gain popularity.. macam budak sekolah.
Forgive the Kid. He has not reach puberty. Don't even think of maturity.
You should know how kids behave ranting wanting other people toys when he don't have any.
Take it easy.
Hi Alex,
This is an excellent post, you have not only unveiled his ignorance and 100% tak ada akal creature, and you have also reminded all your readers to refer price chat and many technical views!
Praises for the post of ESSO, I have gained some from that too! By the way, the price is slipping to 4.86, when will be the next entry price?
Hi Alex
Bravo....well said indeed. We all should remain polite especially when we disagree. I do greatly appreciate your willingness to share your views.
10S BRO.
u did a good job for sharing u idea - either tech analysis nor fundamental analysis
one shall bear the risk to trade/ invest .. dont just blame plp for anything. .as u are the decision maker for either call buy or sell.
i everyday come here. .at least 2 times :) to study any latest upload article.
Alex, this is Moolah from whereiszemoola.blogspot.com.
I have a simple comment to make. This ronnie is nothing but a trouble maker.
Why? My reasonings are long so I have made a new posting on my blog: http://whereiszemoola.blogspot.com/2011/06/totally-meaningless.html
btw you do not have to publish this set of comment.
Hi Alex:
Agree n disagree is the norm of the day . So it is much regrettable that someone is going after at the slightest mismeander in the so-called analysis apparently not in alignment with theirs . The hostile n confrontational attitude are uncalled for under these circumstances.
hi there,
i have been following your blog for sometime. first and foremost, i think you did a fantastic job. no doubt about it. put it this way, if you are no good, why would someone spends time putting you down, i.e. to create some traffic for himself? a little pathetic dont you think?
it had always been the fundamental problem of the business of advising investment - when it goes up it's due to the merits of the investors but when things turn out bad, it's the adviser's problem.
the best way to ward off such stupidity is to ignore it bcoz the malicious intent here is to make you lose your cool...
keep it up. share market is not a one day event. perpetuity means you got time by your side.
oh btw, you should remove the link too. you are creating traffic to his site...lol
be strong my friend
cheers. www.dimpledbrain.com
OMG...again he is back! Certainly he has no life!
Nothing has changed my view from 2 years ago when I started reading this blog! I have benefited from HPI, LTKM, KFIMA, HARISON, ALLIANZ, TWS and these are all written in the blog.
Should I curse or rant on Alex for MNRB because it is still a losing counter in my portfolio? It is just a matter to time to tell and this is my OWN call! I am the one who key in the buy price and units on my trading account! @#$%^&
100% support u
i might not agree with yr TA method, BUT u r a real gentleman, i salute u!!!!!
anyway, keep up d good work!!
Alex, I salute your humbleness.
The reason he is attacking your blog is due to your blog has one of the highest viewership among M'sian investment blogs.
According to www.alexa.com, a web-traffic monitor website, nexttrade popularity ranking in Malaysia is no.6,171 while sam's website is far behind at only no.60,346.
It's obvious Sam is desperately trying to pinch Nexttrade's viewers by pin-pointing on your non-work out calls at the same time advertising his own URL in your blog. Zero-cost advertisement~
+1 to u is too little
+infinite to u... good work Alex..
both TA and FA are equally important, matter on how one interpret and move ahead
Hi Alex,
This person who rants and says malicious remarks on others only reflects his stupidity and immaturity. He thinks he is king and I do agree...king of the jungle. Just thought how he was brought up, still behaving like a 3 year old!
Just ignore this person...if he can be classified as one!
Hey Alex, great that you have ignored that big time ignoramus aka Samgang.
You have been doing a fine job and are still doing it.
In my books ..you are like number 1 or 2 in this field [dali and you]
Take care.
hi alex,
keep up the good work!!
thanks
maxwealth88
Hello Alex, he's still a kid to understand TA well. Did you blame the car if you dont know how to drive one?
Like driving, we have to go to driving school to learn to drive and appreciate the car better and believe he need to attend TA and investment course to understand it better too.
Anyway Alex, keep up the good work and leave him alone. He will grow up eventually but dont know when.
Hi Alex, u r not world no 1 but u r the best, 100% support u.
Hi Alex, I fully support and agree with your post. Please do keep up the good work. Thanks!
Always support you, alex
David
alex,
u have my strong support ... we have all gone through what you have been facing ... after many years, my advice to moolah is the same for you ... just ignore the bastards ... always filter yr comments submission ... cheers, u r doing a fine job, and a most excellent well argued write up ... so, u r more than just a technical guy ... u should write more
S Dali
To everybody,
Thank you. I am deeply humbled by your message and comment. I will take heart from your kind words of encouragement & support. This will spur me on as I continue to share my thoughts on our market. Again, thank you to one & all.
I like the way U analyses on the stocks recommended.Whether one made money or not , one should not blame U as U didn't charge us a cent.U are a very humble person.U choose not repay evil with evil but instead put out an olive branch to Sam.Keep it up.Good for the soul.
a number of my friends are subscribers to his so-called private blog. they are complaining to me now as they are caught now with significant paper losses on quite a number of sam's so-called FA picks. i was told his excuse for the loss picks are when market is quiet, even good Qe will not be able to do anything to the stock price. Well do you agree with him? hahaha.
but why are there others who still make money now in the stock market when it is so quiet ?
he told his members that he want to help newbies in the stock market by teaching them FA and have good karma from doing so. well sam, let me tel you this : if you want to help newbies and have good karma, you can start by continue to give free advice to the readers like Nexttrade, Zemoola, Dali and many others. and good karma does not come with continuously criticising the other fellow bloggers and running them down when you catch them making a bad call.
you made bad calls yourself so you are not better than anyone else. and you think you can gain good karma by doing what you are doing now?
from my calculations, you certainly make much more money charging your readers a yearly subscription than from the stock market now. that's why you keep on running others down and gaining cheap publicity in order to attract the curious ones to subscribe just 1 year from your blog.
there are many ways to make money, but resorting to all these dirty tricks and continuously running down other bloggers, i am afraid that most of us do not agree to it. I hope the newbies stop subscribing to his private blog, if you subscribe you are condoning and accepting his dirty tricks and bad practices. there are many stock market blogs in Malaysia that generously share with readers. you just have to be a bit more diligent to find them.
Hi Alex
I followed his blog for a while and notice that he really shouts out his winners and keep "MUM" over his losers. And lots of times his winners come say... a few months down the road. You are definitely much much better than him. He definitely has insecurity issues.
Alex
I forgot to tell you that my friends who followed him , have since read your blog. Keep up the good work.
By the way, do you have anything on Fitters.... I spotted a buy signal on 31may11 but didnt buy cos the company recently had some reporting issues with SC
Hi AlwaysWin
Thank you for your support.
On Fitters, I see the stock is trying to come back. It is in an accelerated uptrend line with support at RM1.00. Its immediate resistance is the horizontal line RM1.05. If it can break above RM1.05, it may go to RM1.10 & then the recent high at RM1.15. On the other hand, if it breaks below RM1.00, it may slide down to the long-term uptrend line, with support at RM0.80.
Like you, I am wary of Fitters because of its recent failure to file in its annual report on time. This may be an isolated incident but it may also hold a clue as to the level of professionalism in this company. Having said that, the company is a profitable company, currently trading at a PE of 10 times its gross earning. Due to the cloud kicked up by the recent failure in submitting its account on timely basis, the stock will probably trade at a slight discount to what would be perceived to be its fair value. As such, I think the stock's upside is limited for the medium-term.
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